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MIght be of interest to others. Quixote, a contributor to Shakesville, wrote a post back in February called Less heat, more light: solving the energy crisis, which does a great job of describing what our real options are, long term, for future energy sources. Not just in terms of sustainability and environmental impact, but technological complexity, cost, and the total energy yield possible for each source.

Guess which one wins on all counts? Hint: it's definitely not nuclear...

Date: 2008-07-03 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randallsquared.livejournal.com
Solar will be useful in the long run.

That said, it's only recently been the case that solar is economically viable. Previously, it cost, in terms of energy, nearly the lifetime output of the solar panel to build it. Newer technologies are finally changing that.

Due to clouds and other environmental effects, though, ground-based solar isn't really optimal; the most reliable way to go is space-based solar. This still requires (microwave) ground collectors, of course, but they aren't affected by clouds, they can have much smaller footprints than ground-based solar, and they don't stop the sun shining on that acreage, so you can use it for other things as well, like crops.

Date: 2008-07-03 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flewellyn.livejournal.com
Did you read the linked post?

Date: 2008-07-03 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randallsquared.livejournal.com
Yes. I just went back and grepped it for "space" and "satellite" to make sure that I hadn't missed the part where he mentions solar power satellites, and he doesn't seem to have mentioned them at all.

Date: 2008-07-03 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flewellyn.livejournal.com
Why should he, when his survey of the research shows that they're probably unnecessary?

Date: 2008-07-03 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randallsquared.livejournal.com
Necessary... I'd agree they aren't necessary. But I'd say they're desirable.

Date: 2008-07-03 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flewellyn.livejournal.com
Only if we end up needing more than 200 terawatts of energy at some point in the future.

Date: 2008-07-03 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypticbob.livejournal.com
Gerbils? It's gerbils, isn't it?

*chuckles*

Date: 2008-07-03 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrz80.livejournal.com
Always vote for the landlord rather than the tenant in these cotton-eating-insect disputes ....

the lessor of two weevils

Date: 2008-07-04 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moronqueen.livejournal.com
Gah...show tunes...in head...BAD.

William...Shatner...possesing...me.

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